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Please can I have some advice I need training!
Posted On 06/05/2009 18:32:28 by ducatirose
A few days ago Diesel went up to a couple of women wagging tail not aggressive at all and they went ape one of them who had a spaniel on the lead was saying "that dog should be shot"and one of kicked him in the face and the other grabbed hold off his harness... I kept tryin to say to them your aggression will make him aggressive but they carried on! how daft are some bods? he was just sayin hello! urrr! their ignorance made him react aggressively because he went into "protecting mummy mode" how was he to know they weren't going to turn on me when they were shouting abuse and aggressive behavious towards him! it was totally unprovoked and shocked me.....Diesel was not being aggressive.. in fact quite the opposite he generally totally ignores other dogs we meet & he was wagging his tail quite happy holding his tennis ball.  We were on the walk with two other dogs, Misha (our foster doggie) and Foster my friends Lab, he gets on brilliantly with them & also with my friends other dog, who is an Alsatian (who wasnt with us as he cant do those distances anymore).  

My problem is today on the walk another dog came up (we were trying to get them all on leads because of what happened the other day) but the guy kept on walking up to us... Foster was the first to be aggressive and then Diesel who had been totally ignoring the other dog and sitting for me to put the lead on, but he then followed Foster in and attacked the other dog.  I managed to grab him before he did any damage & I did shout at him saying "No!" ...  I obviously kept him on the lead and he was very obedient for the rest of the walk, we went past other dogs who were on/off the lead and he did what he normally does which is completely ignore the other dogs....

Please help I am very aware that it is me that needs the training! I'm also unsure of how I can "read" him when he is about to attack as its very new behaviour any advice on that would be great and... do I need to re-socialise him with some nice spaniels?? we know a couple of lovely spaniels on our local stomping ground and they've always got on fine.. in fact he has never been dog aggressive before ... quite the opposite very much lacking in confidence with other dogs... any advice would be truly appreciated.  I was thinking maybe it was a "pack" behaviour as the lab reacted aggressively?
many thanks in advance Rosie xx

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08/05/2009 11:07:21

Thanks again I will try that.  Been using retractable lead and tons of practice on basic stuff sit , come , down etc.  will keep you up to date on how we get on.  big hugs and licks and wags from Diesel!



07/05/2009 19:03:32

If you are following this strictly then only Diesel at first, but you could adapt it later or have someone else working with Misha too. OK, here goes;

Meet & greet Part A ; as taught to me in puppy class using clickers. Set up in advance with other dog owner - preferably dog not in his pack. Stand at opposite ends of an imaginary line, side on to each other with dogs in front of you in a sit, at a distance not reacting to other dog. Keep dog 100% focused on you with high vslue treats/ toy/clicker.Step to the side, get dog to sit, repeat. The goal is to eventually have the 2 dogs pass one another without so much as a sniff. Then you can do it again, allow dogs one quick sniff, then move on. If all OK can try brief normal greeting on lead, but they must move on as soon as you want.

Part B, if you are still bearing with me This is adapted by me to unscheduled meetings in the real world. I haven't got very far with it yet, my dogs DA is pretty bad. You should know what distance your dog is comfortable with.Keep his attention as before, either by moving away from the other dog and getting him to sit for a treat, or walking by it, keeping the attention on you with a treat in the heel postion. Watch both dogs body language, if anything other than completely calm and unbothered or all soft and waggy then avoid.

Off lead I have no experience of , but  just a suggestion, keep him on a long line at first with known friendly dogs, keep it very brief, get him used to play being interrupted ("time out" ) and then let off again by command. Always have a distraction/ treat for him to hand and practice recall till blue in the face. And if you find an easier way let me know! Seriously thoough I don't think you really need all this.



07/05/2009 11:39:15

sofasurfer wrote:

RE: reading his signals...this is difficult as I am only going by my dog. The signs can be very subtle. MOre obvious ones are walking stiffly, staring fixedly , head up /ears pricked/ tail up. Charging towards another dog in an excited way/ rough play. MIght also seem nervous-trotting along quickly looking around constantly, licking lips, hiding next to your legs, overly submissive to other dogs.


You can't blame yourself and say you need training- these things can happen very quiuckly and it is impossible to be 100% focused on your dog every second.


However, if you want to try a training technique  I can suggest "meet and greet" since you know people with friendly dogs, moving on to short off lead plays step by step. It might help you regain confidence even if your dog doesn't need it- just give me a shout if you want me to explain this.


 



Hi thanks again for your advice.  Please can you explain the "meet and greet" process I think I know what you mean but should I do it with Misha there too or just Diesel on his own to start with? Misha can intimidate some dogs purely because of her size even though she is totally placid. Thanks in advance xx


06/05/2009 21:36:35

RE: reading his signals...this is difficult as I am only going by my dog. The signs can be very subtle. MOre obvious ones are walking stiffly, staring fixedly , head up /ears pricked/ tail up. Charging towards another dog in an excited way/ rough play. MIght also seem nervous-trotting along quickly looking around constantly, licking lips, hiding next to your legs, overly submissive to other dogs.

You can't blame yourself and say you need training- these things can happen very quiuckly and it is impossible to be 100% focused on your dog every second.

However, if you want to try a training technique  I can suggest "meet and greet" since you know people with friendly dogs, moving on to short off lead plays step by step. It might help you regain confidence even if your dog doesn't need it- just give me a shout if you want me to explain this.

 



06/05/2009 19:06:25
Thank you sofasufer for your advice I will do that and see how we get on.  I must admit I was nervous because of the other day which is why I was trying to get them on the lead, maybe he picked up on my vibes ... thanks appreciate itxx


06/05/2009 18:58:53

Well my dog is DA, yours may not be, just a one off -but introduce him to other dogs carefully and on a lead until you are confident he is back to himself. You can let him run around on a long line if you are not sure how he will react to the sudden appearance of a strange dog.

My personal opinion based on my dog is that Staffies are extremely tuned in to their owners and react very very quickly- he would have been reacting to your feelings about the approaching walker as well as the situation with the lab. HTH





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