i have just been cruising the old topics in no particular order & for no particular reason other than to ''catch up''

 

some of the stuff is pretty amazing, not by the info but rather by the ignorance.

 

just for instance, there is no such breed as ''long legged staffies,'' staffies are a well balanced dog that measures pretty much the same from the withers to the croup as they do from the withers to the ground. the ''long legged'' irish sbt is just a home grown pitty.

 

& there has never been an authenticated attack on a human by a kc registered staffy in the general london area. EVER...so the ''devil dog got my daughter'' is more than likely just another misrepresentation of the worlds premier people dog.

that, together with the call to ban staffies outright & not as bad but equally as irritating, the attempted banning of staffies from some holiday destinations, is brought about by more misrepresentations of the breed by the pseudo staffy mob, the the ones i rail against & get jumped all over for my trouble.

 

bottom line is- if you really want to help save the staffy, it is THE staffy that is our priority....the one & only....16/38 - that is what the staffordshire bull terrier is, 16'' tall at the withers...max. so lets get with the programme, staffies are in strife all over for the same reasons, the easiest way to hide a pitty is to call it a x staffy, we cant be complacent, we need to educate the powers that be &  joe public what a REAL staffy is. a good place to start is show them what they actually look like- 16/38, the distinctive ear set, tail, etc,etc. & by no means least, their demonstrate their wonderful affinity with us humans. 

 

& in case anyone is wondering, i am totally anti bsl.

 

& btw, for general info file, there is no such breed as the ''english bull terrier'', it is simply- bull terrier.

 

the same as the staffy is the staffordshire bull terrier...not the english staffordshire bull terrier.

 

that will do for know...

 

watch this space

ummmmmmmm Gary...cruis'n for a bruis'n is an understatement..lol..but i fully understand where your coming from...l

I have been saying this for a long time and been attacked for it, not on here I don't think. 

 

I take the phone calls for RDR, a few weeks ago a man phoned me, he had a 16 week old Staffy and were having so much trouble with her, he wanted to swop for an adult.  We don't do that.  After a long conversation with him and lots of things for him to try he was more positive, he didn't really want to give her up.

 

I asked if he had papers for his  pup, No,   I asked if he had seen the pup's parents, seen the dad but not the mum.  He then said that the dad was the biggest Staffy he had ever seen, didn't know they could be that big.   This dog was about 19/20ins tall.  So I told him to be careful where he takes his pup and never put a photo of her up on the internet.   There are people trawling the internet looking for banned breed dogs.  I also told him to make sure that his dog is trained and very obedient, which he is going to do by taking him to classes.

 

This man thought he was buying a Staffy, he probably has a Pitt Bull, he did all the right things to get a Staffy but they didn't work.  His experience had been Lurchers so having a Staffy came as a shock and now he has to be careful for the rest of the dog's life thanks to the breeder.

 

We do need the Government to take action on the back yard breeders and puppy farms, until they do, we will always have this problem and family pets will be snatched.

 

 

i dont really know as much as some people do but why are you making such a bug deal of these dogs being taller than you say is the right height at the end of the day the taller staff was the first staff too come an all this about our long legged staffs being pitt bulls, well i think you need to do some reading up cos where the hell do you think satffs came from erm (pitt bulls).... so you dont really have a very good arguement here either way no matter how tall or short these people staffs are these people love there dogs an as for the long legged staffs i spent the day with one today with him sat on my lap giving me kisses an i have no doubt in my mind he is a staff you may well know him his name is scrappy- yes i think you have commented about him before 100% staff that boy is wether he is tall or short

[ well i think you need to do some reading up cos where the hell do you think satffs came from erm (pitt bulls)....

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Floyd wrote: [ well i think you need to do some reading up cos where the hell do you think satffs came from erm (pitt bulls).... LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

 

yeah, it would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

 

for the unenlightened.

 

staffies were ''pitbulls'' in the real meaning of the term.

 

however, the apbt is a cross of the staffy, not the other way around.

 

geeezus. frank spencer.

 

gooballz

 

how is a ''registered'' breeder any different from a byb if they keep breeding outside the standard?

 

that is pretty ordinary imo.

 

thankfully not many do.

 

 

forgot to add....

 

lovely looking puppy.

 

i luv 'em flashy.

 

what's the breeding.

Just to add my opinion if you look at any Stafford none of them conform to all the breed standards I have yet to ever find a dog that is perfect and if you think your dogs meet every aspect of the breed standard you are the laugh here,  all dogs have faults none are perfect that is why people show their dogs and each judge has different ideas as to what they like.The standard is only a guide not something that is an exact science How boring our world would be if all our dogs looked the same and gee I would hate to be a judge well really you wouldnt need one would we?

Gooballz wrote: This is (Gooballz) Cruisinfrabruizin :- (cruisin for a bruisin) LOL     sorry couldn't resist!   Sorry the standard may say 14" to 16" and around the 38lb now but the old one was 18" for the Stafford. I know that here in Australia, a lot of the dogs in the show ring are over 16". Some are up to or just over the 17" tall.   Behind my dogs pedigrees are a lot of 18" dogs, (including imports from the UK) and every so often you will get ones that throw back to the old size. Doesn't make them any less of a Stafford (JMHO).   One of my friends has the most beautiful bl/brindle SBT that you could imagine. He is 17 1/2" or a bit more tall and a lot heavier than 38lb. But looks every inch a SBT.   But then again so does a SBT that is on the bottom of the standard, only 14" tall if it's conformation is correct, it will still have the SBT "look".   Luckily when we get our dogs tested for L2-HGA & HC over here the lab also does the DNA test and you get all the certificates back. That way there is never any doubt that the dogs are, anything, but SBT.   One of my boys stands a bit over 16", he is an Aust Ch. as well, his mother is just 1/4" under 16" (also an Aust Ch with obedience titles) and his litter sister, is my little "cutie" who is only just over 14 1/2" tall. The sire of the little is nearly 17" tall, but had everything that I wanted in the mating, and the bloodlines that went with my girls pedigree, which I can take back about 15 generations of Staffords. The others out of the litter are also around the 16" or a bit more.   Educate the public as to what a real Stafford is, what to look for in them and do away with backyard breeders, would be wonderful, but don't write off all dogs over the "magic" 16" as cross-bred or maybe pitbulls, as a lot of real Staffords are over that size as well.   Jan

  Jan I am so glad you have put this on here I have been trying to tell kipmckool this for ages, but he is ignorant to anyone elses views and knowledge of the breed and only wants to have the perfect STANDARD KC size which really is not the perfect stafford as they were originally breed to be around 18-19" it is the breeders and the KC that have made decisions to shrink them and alter them for their own preferances, and for no other reason. 

whether i said it the right way round or not i know wat im talking about an so did you as you corrected it... if you disagree with us so much here why have you not joined a staffordshire bull terrier forum that is based in aus cos you seem to be pee-ing of the aus people here too none of us are bothered if you think our dogs are pitts an the end of the day we can walk down the streets wioth our dogs an our heads held high knowing they are staffs... but for you im going to say goodbye cos you really are boring now an i just can't be arsed with your opinion

thank god for that.

 

my eyes were getting tired.

 

there is a difference between opinion & fact btw.

 

i deal in facts, ma'am, only the facts