''throwbacks'' are a fallacy in the world of selectively bred pure breeds.

 

in the case of dogs, a lame excuse used by the byb's.

 

that byb's only breed unregistered pure breeds is also a fallacy.

 

buying a genuine well bred staffy is not as easy as just looking up the classifieds in the local paper. especially in places like the UK where pitties & amstaffs are both banned.

 

caveat emptor......there's crooks about.

Amstaffs aren't banned in the UK, I stopped 2 police men the other day and was asking them about it, they radio'd threw to the man who's in charge of dog laws in my town and he told me Amstaffs aren't banned but the kc doesn't reconize them, American Pitbulls (Which is a breed i love) are banned and any cross types of them.

Other dogs that may be affected

It is important to note the word “type”, as none of the prohibited dogs are recognised

breeds in Great Britain. The terms of section 1 of the DDA make it clear that it applies

not only to “pure” Pit Bull Terriers but also to any dog of the type known as the Pit

Bull Terrier.

Whether section 1 of the DDA applies to any particular cross will depend on whether

the resulting dog is of the prohibited type – that is to say, whether it has the

physical and behavioural characteristics of the prohibited type. Remember that the

characteristics are essential in deciding whether or not the dog is prohibited. Not

all Pit Bull Terriers will be described as a Pit Bull Terrier by their owner. Some owners

may deliberately misrepresent the breed of their dog using terms such as American

Staffordshire Terriers (Am Staffs or ASTs), American Bulldogs and the Presa Canaria.

Other names used to describe the Pit Bull Terrier types may be Irish Staffordshire Bull

Terriers (not to be confused with a Staffordshire Bull Terrier bred in Ireland), Old

Fashioned Staffords or Traditional Staffords. There are likely to be other names being

used by people breeding fighting dogs.

If a person arriving in this country produces paperwork that purports to prove that

the dog is not a prohibited type it is necessary for the authorities to be cautious.

Paperwork accompanying the dog should be detailed and comprehensive. Owners

should be aware that if the dog displays the defining characteristics that are

represented in the prohibited types the dog could be seized and its fate decided by the

courts irrespective of the paperwork. It is therefore necessary to be very cautious when

buying a dog that is not Kennel Club registered particularly if you are considering

bringing a dog to this country from overseas.

If there is any doubt as to whether the dog in question could be considered to be of

the prohibited type, the advice is NOT to bring it into this country.

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Types of dogs prohibited in Great Britain

& of course some people even call them staffordshire bull terriers......even register them with the kc for c'ris sake.

i know some one who has a new litter of what he is calling staff's but i know the mum dog she is mix pitbull cross staff to be honest by looking at her you would not think she has pit in her. i was abit peed off when my brother told me the guy is selling them for 400-500 as Staff bull terriers the dad of the puppy's is full SBT but i know 100% the bitch is not as i know her breeder. its a shame that some one will buy them pup's not knowing what they are as they look just like staffy's then i guess the cycle starts of them puppy's breeding and so on...

 

seashell79 wrote: i know some one who has a new litter of what he is calling staff's but i know the mum dog she is mix pitbull cross staff to be honest by looking at her you would not think she has pit in her. i was abit peed off when my brother told me the guy is selling them for 400-500 as Staff bull terriers the dad of the puppy's is full SBT but i know 100% the bitch is not as i know her breeder. its a shame that some one will buy them pup's not knowing what they are as they look just like staffy's then i guess the cycle starts of them puppy's breeding and so on...

 

that's an example of precisely why the breed is under such enormous pressure.

misrepresentation is our ( as in those who really do care for the breed) biggest enemy.

My sister bought a 'stafford' from a breeder and thought nothing of it as she paid £450 cheap she thought without papers as she just wanted it as a family dog not for show but the pup grew so quickly and so big that she began to wonder . it wasn't until the pup was 18months old and her husband who was the only one strong enough to walk him, one night was stopped by the police and quizzed about the dog . he was given 3 days to show proof of the pedigree and when she contacted the breeder they then called it an irish staff which the police then told her people can use as a cover name for a pittbull and she was forced to hand her beloved dog over to the dog wardens for destruction -- she was devastated and swore never to get another dog.

it is always the innocent bloody dog that pays the price.

 

i doubt there is any other breed that is as misrepresented as the staffy.

 

popular breed, unscrupulous people, quick buck.

just to add, the ''general public'' are under the misapprehension that registered breeders only breed ''show'' dogs.

 

sure, the majority of registered breeders do strive to produce the ultimate show/future breeding prospect, & if they think they have achieved that aim, they inevitably keep the puppy for themselves. the ''pick of the litter'' is most times the subject of much discussion, sometimes a little heated even,  between the breeder & other breeders that have been asked for an opinion.

 

the bottom line is there probably isn't a struck match between the puppy retained & the puppy sold.

 

which is why prospective buyers should seek out ethical registered breeders for their show prospect or their much loved pet.

 

no substitute for quality. no alternative to ethical, registered breeders.

 

 

kipmckool wrote: it is always the innocent bloody dog that pays the price.   i doubt there is any other breed that is as misrepresented as the staffy.   popular breed, unscrupulous people, quick buck.

Well said Gary & so bloody true...

hey floyd!....

 

lowlifes are the problem.

 

control the lowlifes , control the problem......too easy.